Dave Azer, Vice President of Marketing at Jacuzzi Bath Remodel, generates over 4,000 leads a day for the company's dealer network. Not a month or a week. A day. That comes to 1.5 million leads a year across roughly 40 sources. Leads run anywhere from $20 to $425, and Dave will tell you the cost of any single one is almost irrelevant. What he watches is net sales. On The TruCoach Podcast, Dave joins Brian Gottlieb in breaking down the system behind one of home improvement's biggest lead operations: how he vets a new source, why he pulls one vendor out for every one he adds in, and the $3,000 market test that tells him whether a source is worth scaling. He explains why he confirms appointments by listening to the recording of the first call instead of chasing a second confirmation call, and what that did to conversion on his highest-performing leads. Plus he gets into where AI voice agents earn a place in the call center and where operators run to them too fast. And he lands on the advice from an early mentor that still runs his operation: always follow the data.

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