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Church in a living room. Pastors with no building, no staff, and often no safe way to gather publicly. Now add one more question that changes everything: how do you shepherd people and provide for your family at the same time? That tension is exactly why we sat down with Mike for part two of our conversation on Business as Missions (BAM) and the work unfolding in India.

We talk through what BAM really means on the ground: not a side hustle, not a shortcut, and not “business instead of ministry,” but a sustainable strategy that strengthens local house churches and supports gospel multiplication. Mike explains why India became our early footprint for BAM, what house church growth looks like in Hindu and Muslim contexts, and why believers in some regions must meet carefully in small groups. You will hear how entire families often come to faith together, and how that sparks rapid discipleship and new churches that start in ordinary homes.

Mike also breaks down the actual training he teaches: discernment around calling, honest assessment of skills, market research, SWOT analysis, and a simple Business Model Canvas that helps pastors plan operations, budgeting, and basic financial tracking like a monthly profit and loss statement. Along the way, we share real stories from the field, including a barber preparing to launch with integrity and a small transport business that grew through smarter services. If you have business experience, leadership background, or practical skills you think are “just normal,” this conversation will challenge that assumption.

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