Sean is in beautiful Kelowna for the Memorial Cup. Robert is still in Dallas (where the Rangers got no-hit on Monday).

We open (1:00) by talking about Sean's adjusted sleep schedule, the crazy playoff tiebreaker possibilities at the Memorial Cup, how to determine how tall hockey players really are, and sports bucket list items.

Sean then sits down (42:01) with CHL President Dan MacKenzie to discuss what he learned from his time with the NBA, a year under the new NCAA rules, and how the various junior leagues are working in an era of expanded player choice.

The guys wrap up (1:07:10) by discussing the last couple weeks' of conversations with CHL and USHL folks, and how junior hockey (and NCAA hockey) might change in the coming years.

Robert remembers the name of the show. Sean grits his teeth while praising the Arsenal Football Club.

First, (5:30) the guys talk a bit more about Jason Robertson, Kirill Kaprizov, and how contract comps work in different markets. We then move on (20:31) to the fallout from Vegas and John Tortorella's whoospadoodle.

Next, AI Hockey welcomes (37:10) Glenn Hefferan, President and Commissioner of the USHL to talk the Clark Cup Final, his relationship with the commissioners of the CHL, how the USHL develops both players and officials, and what makes a league the right one to be in for players on a college hockey path.

Robert and Sean wrap up (1:21:05) by talking about Bruce Cassidy, Kelly McCrimmon, and how a organization's culture shows up in all the different choices it makes.

Robert finds out about a goat named Skubal. Sean's wifi holds up until a late-episode storm rolls in.

The guys open the show by talking about offseason sports viewing (6:30). Sean announces his running project to watch every Fast & Furious movie.

Sean and Robert then discuss Jamie Benn's legacy (20:40) and what options Dallas has to treat him and the team right at this point, and then the guys talk about NHL awards voting, and why you're doing it wrong.

Kyle Stich of AFP Analytics joins (58:00) to discuss how projecting NHL contracts works, whether Jason Robertson is likely to actually reach arbitration with any team, and how the NHL landscape has shifted (and not shifted) in surprising ways in recent years.

The guys wrap up (1:57:00) by throwing out gut feelings about Jason Robertson's eventual contract and LAN cables.