Going to church means attending a building or event, while being the church means living out your identity as a believer — the body of Christ and the temple of God — every day, in every relationship. Scripture (1 Corinthians 12, Ephesians 1, 1 Peter 2:9) teaches that believers are not just attendees but living stones built into God's spiritual house. Gathering with other believers still matters deeply (Hebrews 10:24-25), but it flows from who you already are, not the other way around.

David McIntyre and Phillip Rich, with host/producer Jon Dzyuba, continue their series on biblical identity by exploring what changes when believers understand they are the church, not just attendees of one. Scripture covered includes 1 Corinthians 12, Ephesians 1 and 4, Colossians 1, 1 Corinthians 3 and 6, Hebrews 10, Matthew 18, Acts 2, and 1 Peter 2 and 5. Plus, the usual "What's in the Cup?" segment to kick things off.

MINI FAQ

Q: What's the difference between going to church and being the church?

A: Going to church is about attending a building; being the church is about living as the body of Christ and temple of the Holy Spirit in everyday life.

Q: Why does Hebrews 10:24-25 matter for this discussion?

A: It explicitly commands believers not to stop gathering together, showing that gathering and identity work together rather than against each other.

Q: What happens when churches are run like entertainment instead of biblical fellowship?

A: David and Phillip explain that performance-driven gatherings can produce consumers and "celebrity pastor" culture instead of genuine, Christ-centered community.

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The church is not a building — it's the body of Christ. According to 1 Corinthians 12:27 and Ephesians 1:22-23, every believer who has accepted Jesus is joined into one living body with Christ as the head. Believers are also called the temple of God in 1 Corinthians 3:16-17, since the Holy Spirit dwells in people, not in walls. The Greek word "ekklesia," translated "church," literally means "the called-out ones" — a people, not a place. David McIntyre and Phillip Rich explain why this matters for how you see yourself and your local gathering.

In Episode 1 of "The Broken Church," David McIntyre and Phillip Rich set the foundation for a two-part conversation about church health by first defining the church biblically. Walking through 1 Corinthians 12, Ephesians 1 and 2, Colossians 1, and 1 Peter 2, they show the church is the body of Christ and the temple of God, not an organization, building, or membership list. They close with a practical challenge: this week, try calling your church the "gathering place" instead — and see how it reshapes how you see yourself.

Scripture Referenced: 1 Corinthians chapter 12, verses 12-13 and 27 · Romans chapter 12, verses 4-5 · Ephesians chapter 1, verses 15-23 · Colossians chapter 1, verses 15-18 and 24 · 1 Corinthians chapter 3, verses 16-17 · 1 Corinthians chapter 6, verses 19-20 · 2 Corinthians chapter 6, verse 16 · Ephesians chapter 2, verses 19-22 · 1 Peter chapter 2, verses 4-5

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FAQ

Q: Why does the Bible call believers "the temple of God"?

A: Because the Holy Spirit dwells in believers under the new covenant, not in a physical structure like the Old Testament temple.

Q: What's the difference between "the church" and "the gathering place"?

A: The church is the people — every believer, everywhere. The gathering place is the local building or group where believers meet.

Q: What's next in this series?

A: Part 2 covers the difference between being the church and going to church.

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A clergy woman claimed that if Jesus were preaching the Sermon on the Mount today, he might also say "blessed are those who end pregnancies." David McIntyre, Phillip Rich, and Jon Dzyuba push back — not with condemnation, but with Scripture. Psalm 139:13–16 says God knit each person together in the womb. Jeremiah 1:5 says God knew Jeremiah before he was formed. John 10:10 says Jesus came that we might have life. Asserting what Jesus "would have said" isn't interpretation. It's invention.

Week 6 of the BBB Reacts series opens with a clip that stopped David and Phil cold: a clergy woman confidently claiming that if Jesus were giving the Sermon on the Mount today, he might add "blessed are those who end pregnancies." Before anything else, David offers a clear pastoral disclaimer — nobody here is judging anyone who has been in that situation. Then they go to work on what Scripture actually says.

Josh McIntyre joins live to add his voice. Together the guys connect the dots between the dehumanization of the unborn and the same historical playbook used to justify slavery and the Holocaust — citing Voltaire's famous warning about absurdities and atrocities. They discuss Margaret Sanger, the cost of adoption, Planned Parenthood's placement in Black communities, and land where they always do: broken people need a Savior, and the only one who can put the pieces back together is Christ.

And yes — What's in the Cup? Jon went with banana split coffee from Good & Gather. Phillip showed up with Charleston Coffee Roasters Organic Charleston Whole Bean (and a full travelogue of Charleston, South Carolina). David brought fall energy with Autumn Delight from Red Barn.

Scriptures referenced: Psalm 139 verses 13 through 16 · Jeremiah chapter 1 verse 5 · John chapter 10 verse 10 · Ezekiel chapter 18 verse 32 · Psalm 127 verse 3 · Proverbs chapter 17 verse 6 · Luke chapter 1 verse 14 · Galatians chapter 5 · Matthew chapter 21 verse 44

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Q: What does the Bible say about life in the womb?

A: Psalm 139 verses 13 through 16 describes God forming, knitting, and seeing every person in the womb — even at the stage of "unformed substance." Jeremiah chapter 1 verse 5 says God knew Jeremiah before he was even formed. David reads through these passages in full during the episode.

Q: Is it dangerous when pastors say what Jesus "would" say today?

A: David argues yes — there's a meaningful difference between interpreting what Scripture says and inventing what Jesus would add to it. Using the authority of Jesus to validate a modern position that contradicts his recorded words is, at best, error. At worst, it leads people away from truth.

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Christian artists who build faith-based platforms are held to a higher standard — and Scripture backs that up. This episode of Bible, Bros & Brew digs into why, drawing on Romans 14, First Corinthians 10, Colossians 3, and James 3.

David McIntyre opens with a personal correction and a vulnerable story about a mentor whose hidden sin was eventually exposed — and what grace looks like in the aftermath. The conversation covers the stumbling block principle from First Corinthians 10:23–33, the instruction in Colossians 3:16 and Ephesians 5:19 that music is part of Christian formation, and the accountability James 3:1 places on teachers and influencers. Forrest Frank is highlighted as a model of conviction in a Christian music industry that has increasingly become a commercial product. The episode closes with Psalm 3:7 — a reminder that David the psalmist prayed with fire, and maybe we should too. Grab the I'm Over It e-book at BibleBrosBrew.com or on Amazon. Hosts: David McIntyre, Phillip Rich, and Jon Dzyuba. New episodes every Monday at 6 AM. Bible, Bros & Brew — Where the Word Meets the Daily Grind.

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When Christian artists publicly deconstruct their faith or reverse the values their music once proclaimed, listeners are left asking a real question: were they ever telling the truth? In this episode of Bible, Bros & Brew, David McIntyre, Phillip Rich, and Jon Dzyuba react to Avalon's "Testify to Love" being rerecorded with a gay choir, examine the wave of faith deconstruction among Christian artists, and ground the conversation in Colossians 3, verse 15 — letting the peace of Christ act as an umpire for what we consume.

In this episode, David McIntyre and Phillip Rich react to the Avalon controversy — a member of the beloved Christian group has come out as gay, gotten married, and rerecorded "Testify to Love" with a gay choir — and use that story as a window into the broader pattern of faith deconstruction among high-profile Christian artists. Kevin Max and Michael Tait from DC Talk, Amy Grant, Gungor, Plumb, and Joshua Harris all come up in a conversation that's honest, warm, and grounded in Scripture rather than culture war.

Philip brings Colossians 3, verse 15 to anchor the discussion — "Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts" — and the guys apply it as a practical filter for what you listen to and who you trust with your spiritual formation. They also give a fresh list of artists who are doing it right: Forest Frank, Jonathan Ogden, Josh Garrels, Victory Boyd, Sunday, NF, Jason Nelson, Hulvey, and more.

Hosts: David McIntyre and Phillip Rich | Producer: Jon Dzyuba
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According to the Public Religion Research Institute and Pew Research, the number one reason people leave the church — cited by 51–67% of respondents — is that they simply stopped believing. Hosts David McIntyre and Phillip Rich of Bible, Bros & Brew argue this is not a programming problem. It's a roots problem — what happens when faith isn't built on consistent, personal engagement with Scripture.

In this episode, David McIntyre and Phillip Rich react to two videos presenting survey data on why people are walking away from the church. They explore what the Bible says about shallow versus rooted faith, drawing from the Parable of the Sower in Matthew chapter 13, Romans chapter 10 verse 17, and Jesus' challenge to "do the work of believing" in John chapter 6 verses 26 through 29. They also address the role of parents in faith formation, the danger of Sunday-only Christianity, and how to respond when hypocrisy in the church shakes your faith.

Mini FAQ

Q: What is the number one reason people leave the church?

A: Both PRRI and Pew Research independently found it's that people stopped believing — not dissatisfaction with programs or leadership.

Q: How do you build faith that actually lasts?

A: Romans chapter 10 verse 17 says faith comes by hearing the Word of God. David and Phillip argue that daily, personal engagement with Scripture — not church attendance alone — is what produces lasting belief.

Q: What should parents do to keep their kids in the faith?

A: David and Phillip share from their own experience that intentional, daily family devotion time — and refusing to outsource spiritual formation to the church alone — is what anchors children in genuine faith.

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In this episode of Bible, Bros & Brew, Dave, Phil, and John continue their React series by responding to a WOKE preacher who claims John 14:6 — "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life" — should be interpreted metaphysically rather than literally. The guys break down the full context of John 14, cross-reference Matthew 10, Matthew 7, and Romans 10, and expose how half-truths and loose theology lead believers — and seekers — away from the clear message of Scripture.

They also unpack what happens when Christianity becomes so "inclusive" it stops being Christianity, why the Bereans are still the standard for every believer, and why knowing the Word is your best defense against deception.

☕ What's in the Cup: Phil brings Peregrine Gold's Colombia Thermal Shock (fruit-forward, phenomenal), Dave finally admits the Mocha Turtle from Sam's Club slaps, and John keeps it simple with Black Rifle Blackbeard's Delight after a rough week.

Scriptures Referenced: John 14:1-6 | John 10:9 | Matthew 10:34-39 | Matthew 7:21-23 | Romans 10 | Matthew 5:18 | 2 Peter 1:20-21 | Acts 17 (The Bereans)

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Theo Vaughn prayed something most Christians are afraid to say out loud — that even as he asked God to help him stop a behavior, he knew part of him was probably going to do it again. He asked God to get into that part of him too. The broken part. The part that doesn’t even want to be fixed.
David, Phil, and Jon react to that moment and open up a real conversation about prayer — what it actually is, what gets in the way, and why so many believers trade the genuine thing for religious performance over time.

Topics covered: conviction vs. condemnation, the Lord’s Prayer unpacked, praying with honesty instead of pretense, and what it means to let God into the hardest, most hidden parts of who you are.

📖 Matthew 6:5-13 | Romans 8:1 | Psalm 139:23-24 | James 5:16 | Hebrews 4:12-13 | Philippians 1:6

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