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Disordered is the podcast that delivers real, evidence-based, actionable talk about anxiety disorders and anxiety recovery in a kind, compassionate, community-oriented environment. Josh Fletcher is a qualified psychotherapist in the UK. Drew Linsalata is a therapist practicing under supervision in the US. They're both bestselling authors in the anxiety and mental health space. Josh and Drew are funny, friendly, and they have a knack for combining lived experience, formal training, and professional experience in an encouraging, inspiring, and compassionate mental health message.Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata Hygiene & Healthy Living Psychology Psychology & Mental Health
Episodes
  • When Anxiety Says You're The Exception (Episode 163)
    Jul 10 2026

    Anxiety has a favorite move. It doesn't argue that acceptance and exposure don't work. It just convinces you they don't apply to you specifically. This thought, this sensation, this situation, is the one exception to every rule you already understand.


    This week we break down what fuels that exception: possibility, intensity, and importance, plus the urgency that makes an unlikely outcome feel like it's already happening. A 1 in 5,000 chance means nothing until anxiety puts your name on it. The same pattern shows up everywhere: the one OCD ritual someone insists they can't skip, the health scare that supposedly voids all the usual rules, the flight or the dentist visit where the real fear isn't the obvious one but some elaborate scenario your brain built from nothing.


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    Want to talk about what you're hearing today? We're hanging out in the Disordered Community space:

    https://disordered.fm/community

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    We also get into the meta version of this:

    • I've had it longer than anyone
    • I have more going on than anyone else
    • no one is as scared as I am.


    It's the same doubt wearing a different story, and it isn't true. You don't want to be special here.

    Plus listener wins from the community: a woman who pushed through agoraphobia and fresh grief to make it to her grandmother's funeral, and another who felt a wave of panic build in a crowded arcade and chose to stay instead of running.


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    The Disordered Guide to Health Anxiety is available as a paperback or on Kindle


    ⁠https://www.disordered.fm/the-disordered-guide-to-health-anxiety/⁠


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    Struggling with worry and rumination that you feel you can't stop or control? Check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Worry and Rumination Explained⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a two hour pre-recorded workshop produced by Josh and Drew. The workshop takes a deep dive into the mechanics of worrying and ruminating, offering some helpful ways to approach the seemingly unsolvable problem of trying to solve seemingly unsolvable problems.

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    Got a question or did it anyway to share? ⁠Send us an email or voicemail on our website⁠.


    https://disordered.fm

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    38 mins
  • Anxiety Recovery PROCESS vs CONTENT (Episode 162)
    Jul 3 2026

    It's your heart. Or the dizziness. Or the one thought you can't get to leave you alone. If you could just solve that specific thing, you'd finally be okay. This week we push back on that.


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    Want to talk about what you're hearing today with Drew, Josh, and others that share your experience? We're hanging out in the Disordered Community Space:

    https://disordered.fm/community

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    The subject of your fear, the heartbeat, the health scare, the intrusive thought, the situation you're avoiding, is the content. What's actually running underneath it, the same threat response, the same doubt, the same physical symptoms no matter what story your brain attaches them to this week, is the process. Chase the content and it just moves. Solve one fear and another takes its place, because you were never fighting the fear itself. We also get into the exception clause, the "yeah, but what about" that convinces you your specific situation is somehow different from every other anxious thought you've ever had, and why treating it that way only teaches your brain the opposite of what you're trying to teach it.


    None of this means the content doesn't matter. Your health matters. Your relationships matter. That's exactly why it's so easy to get pulled into trying to fix it directly instead of doing the harder, less obvious work underneath. Plus, listener updates from the community:

    * a mom who kept walking with her kids through a wave of panic in the heat

    * someone who worked a full shift through dizziness instead of stopping to check it

    * a listener who took a long-planned trip anyway, only to get a Meniere's diagnosis right after, and found she could hold both the diagnosis and the proof that she'd handled the trip.

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    The Disordered Guide to Health Anxiety is available as a paperback or on Kindle


    ⁠https://www.disordered.fm/the-disordered-guide-to-health-anxiety/⁠

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    Struggling with worry and rumination that you feel you can't stop or control? Check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Worry and Rumination Explained⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a two hour pre-recorded workshop produced by Josh and Drew. The workshop takes a deep dive into the mechanics of worrying and ruminating, offering some helpful ways to approach the seemingly unsolvable problem of trying to solve seemingly unsolvable problems.

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    Got a question or did it anyway to share? ⁠Send us an email or voicemail on our website⁠.


    https://disordered.fm

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    36 mins
  • Anxiety Recovery: Bring ALL Versions Of You (Episode 161)
    Jun 26 2026

    You want to do the acceptance thing. You've read the books, you've listened to the podcasts, you intellectually get it. And then you get triggered, and suddenly the version of you that's anxious, scared, or doubting gets the door slammed in its face. That version of you is broken. That version shouldn't be here. That version needs to go.


    But that's the version of you that actually has to learn the lesson.


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    Want to talk about what you heard today or interact with us and a community of people that are sharing your experience? We're hanging out in the Disordered Community space:

    https://disordered.fm/community

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    In this episode we dig into one of the most common ways people unknowingly block their own recovery - conditional self-acceptance. Accepting yourself when you're calm and feeling OK, but turning on yourself the moment anxiety shows up, is not acceptance. It's a condition. You cannot do genuine tolerance, surrender, or desensitization while simultaneously trying to kick the anxious part of you out of the room.

    Come as you are - tired, scared, doubting, not optimal - because that's who has to do the work. We also take apart the "80 days to become the person you want to be" optimization culture that's quietly telling anxious people they're broken, and why understanding your anxiety intellectually is necessary but nowhere near sufficient on its own. Plus real listener wins from the community, including a mom with emetophobia who used her son getting sick in the car as an accidental (and very successful) exposure.


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    The Disordered Guide to Health Anxiety is available as a paperback or on Kindle


    ⁠https://www.disordered.fm/the-disordered-guide-to-health-anxiety/⁠

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    Struggling with worry and rumination that you feel you can't stop or control? Check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Worry and Rumination Explained⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a two hour pre-recorded workshop produced by Josh and Drew. The workshop takes a deep dive into the mechanics of worrying and ruminating, offering some helpful ways to approach the seemingly unsolvable problem of trying to solve seemingly unsolvable problems.

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    Got a question or did it anyway to share? ⁠Send us an email or voicemail on our website⁠.


    https://disordered.fm

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    35 mins
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One of the best podcasts about disordered anxiety I've ever listened to.

thank you

Wow. Just wow.

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Matter or fact, sensible, calming podcast which feels on your side, offering practical, realistic and evidence-based approaches to help with problems. Powerful, funny, joyous at times, never not interesting. Love
It. It’s added to the toolbox of help for me. Thanks!

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love this podcast really informative and helps turn something that is very scary into something that really isn't! education on anxiety makes it so much easier to understand and handle. These guys are fantastic! Thankyou josh and drew!

amazing podcast

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These two truly understand severe anxiety and they make me belly laugh, which is just what you need when you're going through an anxious period. I love that they're educational without being condescending, and they celebrate big wins (which may seem tiny to others).

Best anxiety podcast

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