On this week's Midweek Catchup, Kaye nearly video-calls a professional contact from the loo (don't judge - you've done it), Karen's losing her voice to zero sympathy, and both of them are quietly jealous of Karen's sister Ag, who's just casually bouncing between Australia, Japan and New York with a glass of white wine permanently in hand. There's a Milan trip on the cards, which dredges up the time Kaye was dumped mid-pasta by a gorgeous Italian who put down his cutlery, said "this isn't working," and walked out - romance died in Lombardy and nobody paid the bill.

But the real moment comes when Kaye finds a letter from 10 Downing Street confirming her interview with Margaret Thatcher, dated 15th April 1986 - forty years to the day, tucked inside a big book marked "Cuttings" with nothing else in it, because apparently nothing else measured up. Plus: should they do Edinburgh Festival this year, and this Friday Wendy Peters joins - Cilla from Crossroads, currently touring in Glorious as Florence Foster Jenkins.

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On this week's episode, we're joined by Jo Hamilton, the village sub-postmistress who was wrongly convicted of false accounting in the Post Office Horizon scandal — and who spent nearly two decades fighting to clear her name and the names of hundreds of others.

Jo talks about running a little shop that was more drop-in centre than convenience store, the moment a faulty computer system started destroying her life, remortgaging the family home to cover money that was never actually missing, and standing in Winchester Crown Court genuinely believing she was going to prison. She tells Kaye about the village that clubbed together to keep her afloat, the extraordinary woman who paid off her mortgage with a six-figure cheque, and the moment she lay in bed after the High Court victory and looked up and told her late mum and dad: we did it.

It's a story about shame, silence, and what happens when a fundamentally honest person gets trapped in an impossible situation. But it's also about discovering, in your fifties and sixties, a version of yourself you never knew was in there. Because sometimes the thing that nearly breaks you is the thing that shows you exactly what you're made of.

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On this week's Midweek Catchup, Kaye bought a Peter Kay VIP package, forgot about it entirely, and queued in the rain like a mug. Karen lost her earbuds for three days, bought replacements, then found the originals in her dressing gown. There's eyelid surgery chat, a three-wheeled electric bike that defeated two grown adults, building work that so far involves moving junk from one room to another, and a place called Kinky Cottage that we're not getting into. Happy Tuesday.

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