What happens to your mind when your body is 79 metres underwater, running on a single breath? World champion freediver Helena Bourdillon joins Patrick to talk about the razor's edge between presence and fear — and how she's used the same discipline to inspire people on land. If you've ever wondered what it really takes to go to the edge and come back, this conversation is for you.

TW - Discussions of suicide, self-harm.

What does it actually cost a brand to do the right thing — and who has to fight for it from the inside? Donna Bruns, former VP of Product at Fjällräven joins Patrick to talk about the decision to strip harmful chemicals from their entire range, the battles it sparked, and why the hardest part wasn't the chemistry. If you've ever wondered whether corporate conviction is real or just marketing, this is the conversation that answers it.

Some brands don't need reinventing — they need remembering. Bob Neville, Global Head of Retail at Pentland Brands (who own Berghaus, among other iconic brands) joins Patrick to talk about what it means to reboot an icon by going back to its roots, to the fells and crags of Northern England where the whole thing started. If you believe the best direction for a brand is sometimes backwards, pull up a seat.