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Long Game: a Heated Rivalry Podcast

Long Game: a Heated Rivalry Podcast

By: Declan & Silvan
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Long Game: A Heated Rivalry Podcast is a re-watch and deep-dive podcast dedicated to Heated Rivalry, hosted by Declan and Silvan. In each episode, we revisit key moments across the series, unpacking the slow-burn tension, character development, and emotional beats that make the heated rivalry world so compelling. Through thoughtful discussion, close reading, and a fan-informed lens, we explore themes of competition, intimacy, identity, and growth over time, celebrating not just the heat of the rivalry, but the long game it takes to truly understand these characters and their relationship. New episodes published every Sunday© 2026 Declan & Silvan Art Social Sciences
Episodes
  • Heated Rivalry, Fan Fiction & AO3: Part 1
    May 24 2026
    Silvan is joined by special guest Jenn from The Book Refuge for a deep dive into the passionate world of Heated Rivalry fandom, fan fiction, and the phenomenon of AO3.Jenn shares her journey into fan fiction culture, including how Heated Rivalry became one of the biggest fandoms on AO3. We unpack why these characters inspire such devotion, what makes romance adaptations so emotionally powerful when done well and why fandom spaces can feel both deeply creative and deeply personal.Together we explore what AO3 actually is and how it works, why Heated Rivalry lends itself so perfectly to fan fiction, the blurred lines between authorship, creativity, and community and the legal and ethical complexities surrounding fan works.If you are a longtime AO3 reader or someone hearing the term for the first time, this episode is a fascinating exploration of why people become so attached to fictional characters why Shane and Ilya continue to resonate so deeply with fans around the world.The next episode of the podcast will be published on Sunday 31st May.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Setup00:40 Exploring Heated Rivalry and Fan Fiction03:41 Diving into the Fan Fiction World06:28 The Impact of Adaptations on Romance09:42 The Role of AO3 in Fan Fiction12:29 The Significance of Romance in Storytelling28:30 Exploring the World of Fan Fiction30:21 The Legal Landscape of Fan Fiction37:18 The Gift Economy of Fan Fiction42:11 The Allure of Heated Rivalry Fan Fiction46:35 Understanding Tags in Fan Fiction58:03 The Impact of Wolfbird and Opal Apparition01:00:33 The Popularity of Fan Fiction01:02:25 The Impact of Unfinished Works01:05:17 The Drama Surrounding Fan Fiction Authors01:07:02 Navigating Fandom and Parasocial Relationships01:11:03 The Role of Fiction in Understanding Diverse Experiences01:13:51 Creating a Safe Space in Online Communities01:14:00 Handling Criticism as a Content Creator01:15:37 Exploring Diverse Romance in Literature01:21:00 The Journey into MM RomanceJoin our Long Game Podcast Book Club on Fable to read along with us each week.: https://fable.co/club/long-game-pod-book-club-with-long-game-pod-349252537194?invite=fc285de0-86ea-45c4-ab3f-8dcc82b8cad8&referralID=4tVUzsxlCCFind Jenn:Instagram: thebookrefuge18Youtube: TheBookRefugeFind us on instagram: longgame.heatedrivalry.podWrite to us: longgamepod2481@gmail.comFind Declan: Instagram: declan712Tiktok: declanmccallion1Find Silvan:Instagram: SilvatesTiktok: silvates1Listen to the Podcast on:Apple podcast: Spotify podcast: Amazon podcast: Watch it on youtube: Listen to Silvan’s ‘Silvates’ podcast here:Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/silvates/id1531620495Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2xMX59teVzpf6M86Cv7WG9?si=016f5477aed14697References for material Jenn spoke about today:Series of YT videos by Jill Bearup: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj4N-R1RQxAs2v9G09lNy4oyAnGBBUtW3&si=d1osuTsCvf_6ykw8 An Exhaustive Defense of Fan Fiction: https://youtu.be/wvP_BLMgYBg?si=NoOIu5jxUh3AtigJ Ao3’s Mission Statement: https://archiveofourown.org/about Ao3’s FAQ Page: https://archiveofourown.org/faq/about-the-archive?language_id=en#whatisao3 Slash Fiction (Wiki): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash_fiction#:~:text=It%20is%20commonly%20believed%20that,Spock%22)%20were%20used%20interchangeably Reddit Thread about Opal Apparition: https://www.reddit.com/r/heatedrivalryfanfics/comments/1sbnnuz/this_has_actually_made_me_feel_physically_sick/
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    1 hr and 24 mins
  • Heated Rivalry Book Review: Part 3- Tuna Melt
    May 17 2026

    Declan and Silvan dive into Part 3 the Heated Rivalry book review. We finally reach one of the most emotionally charged turning points in Shane and Ilya’s relationship and we had a lot to say about it.


    From the aquarium scenes with Hayden and the subtle hints about Shane’s fears around family, to the infamous penthouse chapter, ginger ale, tuna melts, and one devastating use of first names, we unpack how Rachel Reid uses intimacy, domesticity, and even sex itself as storytelling devices.


    We explore how these chapters shift Shane and Ilya from “hookups” into something far more vulnerable, and why Shane’s panic feels so heartbreaking once you understand what’s really going on underneath it all.


    We also discuss queer identity, denial, internalised shame, reclaiming slurs, chosen futures, and how the TV adaptation changes and deepens the emotional beats from the book.


    Plus, Declan goes on an anti-pickle rant, we accidentally term the phrase “tuna spit,” and we somehow end up talking about Shakespeare in the middle of all of it.


    This episode covers chapters 12 onward and sets the stage for one of the most painful stretches of the book.


    The next episode of the podcast will be published on Sunday 24th May at 10am (GMT).


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to the Heated Rivalry Podcast

    00:28 Exploring Character Development in Chapters 12-15

    05:26 The Complexity of Family Dynamics

    09:28 The Pressure of Traditional Expectations

    12:35 Navigating Identity and Relationships

    16:44 The Impact of Language and Labels

    24:58 Shane's Sensitivity and Foreshadowing

    27:18 The Complexity of Parenthood and Relationships

    31:53 Navigating Long-Term Hookup Dynamics

    35:40 Sexual Dynamics and Power Play

    47:30 The Shift Towards Intimacy

    54:02 Confronting Domesticity and Vulnerability

    57:34 Conflicted Emotions and Inner Turmoil

    58:23 Denial and Acceptance in Relationships

    01:00:24 Character Depth: Ilya's Backstory

    01:03:50 Intimacy vs. Physicality in Relationships

    01:06:46 The Significance of Names in Connection

    01:10:18 Emotional Climax and Vulnerability

    01:14:04 Conflict and Pacing in Storytelling

    01:19:25 Building Intimacy Over Time


    Join our Long Game Podcast Book Club on Fable to read along with us each week.: https://fable.co/club/long-game-pod-book-club-with-long-game-pod-349252537194?invite=fc285de0-86ea-45c4-ab3f-8dcc82b8cad8&referralID=4tVUzsxlCC


    Find us on instagram: longgame.heatedrivalry.pod

    Write to us: longgamepod2481@gmail.com


    Find Declan:

    Instagram: declan712

    Tiktok: declanmccallion1


    Find Silvan:

    Instagram: Silvates

    Tiktok: silvates1


    Listen to the Podcast on:

    Apple podcast:


    Spotify podcast:


    Amazon podcast:


    Watch it on youtube: https://youtu.be/tjtQNj3qXr8


    Listen to Silvan’s ‘Silvates’ podcast here:

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/silvates/id1531620495

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2xMX59teVzpf6M86Cv7WG9?si=016f5477aed14697




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    1 hr and 23 mins
  • Heated Rivalry Book Review: Part 2 - Vegas
    May 10 2026

    In part two of our Heated Rivalry book review series, Declan and Silvan dive deeper into the emotional chaos, yearning, and tension that turns Shane and Ilya’s relationship from a physical rivalry into something far more dangerous. What started as criticism in part one quickly becomes obsession as the pair unpack chapters 9–11 of and realise this is where the story truly finds its rhythm.


    We discuss Ryan Price’s introduction and the early exploration of anxiety and mental health and Ilya’s protective instincts and the complicated relationship he has with his father.


    We explore why Ilya might be the most psychologically complex character in the series, how trauma and perfectionism shape his behaviour, and why the TV adaptation deepened certain emotional beats even further.


    Our conversation also unpacks the infamous Vegas scene, the shifting power dynamics between Shane and Ilya, and the subtle ways intimacy is portrayed differently in the books versus the TV show.


    Plus, we discuss Rachel Reid’s bonus Ilya POV chapter, why it completely changes the tone of the Vegas encounter, and how it reveals just how heartbreakingly in love Ilya already is.


    Along the way, there’s discussion of Hudson and Connor’s rising fame, future season predictions for the show, emotional communication failures, improvised TV moments that made fans lose their minds, and why the “we didn’t even kiss” text still hurts.


    The next episode of the podcast will be published on Sunday 17th May at 10am (GMT).


    Join our Long Game Podcast Book Club on Fable to read along with us each week.: https://fable.co/club/long-game-pod-book-club-with-long-game-pod-349252537194?invite=fc285de0-86ea-45c4-ab3f-8dcc82b8cad8&referralID=4tVUzsxlCC


    Find us on instagram: longgame.heatedrivalry.pod

    Write to us: longgamepod2481@gmail.com


    Find Declan:

    Instagram: declan712

    Tiktok: declanmccallion1


    Find Silvan:

    Instagram: Silvates

    Tiktok: silvates1


    Listen to Silvan’s ‘Silvates’ podcast here:

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/silvates/id1531620495

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2xMX59teVzpf6M86Cv7WG9?si=016f5477aed14697


    Listen to the Podcast on:

    Apple podcast:


    Spotify podcast:


    Amazon podcast:


    Watch it on youtube: https://youtu.be/Bm92FVXKCHI


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Part Two

    01:35 Character Development and Emotional Depth

    02:34 Introduction of Ryan Price

    04:17 Ilya's Protective Nature

    08:37 The Impact of Fame on Characters

    11:45 Predictions for Future Seasons

    14:35 Character Dynamics and Relationships

    17:34 The Evolution of Ilya's Character

    20:25 Realism in Character Roles

    22:39 Shane's Commitment and Actions

    25:33 Yuna's Role in the Story

    28:55 Sexual Tension and Writing Quality

    31:14 Comparing Book and Show Intimacy

    37:53 Pressure of the Olympics on Ilya

    39:08 The Weight of Leadership

    42:13 Family Dynamics and Personal Struggles

    47:32 The Complexity of Relationships

    48:59 The Pain of Separation

    56:36 The Power of Perspective

    59:01 Control and Power Dynamics

    01:06:17 The Significance of the Extra Chapter

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    1 hr and 18 mins
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