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Neurodiversity Podcast

Neurodiversity Podcast

By: Emily Kircher-Morris
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The Neurodiversity Podcast talks with leaders in the fields of psychology, education, and beyond, about positively impacting neurodivergent people. Our goal is to reframe differences that were once considered disabilities or disorders, promote awareness of this unique population, and improve the lives of neurodivergent and high-ability people.2026 Neurodiversity Alliance Hygiene & Healthy Living Parenting & Families Psychology Psychology & Mental Health Relationships
Episodes
  • Deconstructing Gifted Burnout

    Deconstructing Gifted Burnout
    Jun 2 2026
    When highly capable children spend years cruising through an educational system where academic rigor is geared toward the average, they fail to develop the neurological muscles required to process difficulty. This week, we present an encore chat with Dr. Brian Housand, coordinator of the academically or intellectually gifted program at the University of North Carolina Wilmington, and Andi McNair, a gifted education author and digital innovation specialist. They discuss how burnout can be a result of long-term exposure to unrealistic expectations and a profound fear of failure, and how it can also manifest in a sort of imposter phenomenon among high-ability learners. They explain why teachers and parents should resist the urge to rescue high-ability kids from cognitive discomfort, instead allowing space for productive struggle. TAKEAWAYS Equating intelligence with "quick and easy" creates a highly fragile academic identity that collapses the moment a learner encounters an authentic cognitive challenge. The feeling of ineffectiveness that comes with burnout often stems from an internalized need for external validation. Depriving high-ability students of productive struggle prevents them from building coping mechanisms and adaptive emotional resilience. High-ability learners sometimes experience a profound sense of isolation, which can be minimized by structuring shared spaces to foster a sense of universality. Gifted burnout in adults sometimes signals an unidentified twice-exceptional presentation, where early compensation strategies have finally been overwhelmed by adult executive demands. Perfectionism can be difficult to identify in therapy, and once identified, still very difficult to overcome. If you're a mental health professional, join us for Overcoming Perfectionism in Therapy: Supporting Neurodivergent Clients Who Keep Moving the Finish Line. Matt Zakreski will present this 1.5 hour continuing education course this Friday, June 5th at 1:00 pm Central, and if you can't join us live, that's okay. The video will be available afterward for anyone who registers, and either version is APA and NBCC approved for 1.5 hours of continuing education credit. Register now or learn more at this link, or just go to neurodiversity.university. Dr. Brian Housand is the coordinator of the Academically or Intellectually Gifted program at University of North Carolina Wilmington, and creator of Gifted360.com. He is also a published author and speaker, and has worked in education as a classroom teacher, gifted ed teacher, and university professor for over 20 years. Andi McNair is a passionate educator, author and speaker. Andi taught in the gen-ed classroom for 16 years, and then switched to serving gifted learners where she found her calling. She enjoys sharing her passion for innovative education through her books for educators, speaking nationally, and finding meaningful ways to use technology. Andi currently works as the Digital Innovation Specialist in a Waco, Texas school district. BACKGROUND READING Brian Housand's website, BH Facebook, BH Twitter/X, BH Instagram Andi McNair's website, AM Facebook, AM Twitter/X, AM Instagram The Neurodiversity Podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, BlueSky, and you're invited to join our Facebook Group. For more information go to www.NeurodiversityPodcast.com If you'd like members of your organization, school district, or company to know more about the subjects discussed on our podcast, Emily Kircher-Morris provides keynote addresses, workshops, and training sessions worldwide, in-person or virtually. You can choose from a list of established presentations, or work with Emily to develop a custom talk to fit your unique situation. To learn more, visit our website.
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    37 mins
  • Waiting for Sleep: Chronobiology and Neurodivergence

    Waiting for Sleep: Chronobiology and Neurodivergence
    May 21 2026
    When a neurodivergent child or teen struggles with daytime focus, emotional volatility, or low frustration tolerance, caregivers naturally look for behavioral or psychological explanations. However, chronic sleep deprivation frequently hides behind these daytime struggles, acting as an unseen amplifier for executive dysfunction and sensory overload. Dr. Melisa Moore, a clinical psychologist and board-certified behavioral sleep medicine specialist at Rady Children's Health San Diego, joins Emily Kircher-Morris to reframe sleep not as an isolated nighttime issue, but as a continuous 24-hour biological reality deeply intertwined with neurodivergence. They talk about specific genetic, chronobiological, and comorbid factors that cause sleep disorders, the structural differences in adolescent circadian rhythms, and methods to address bedtime sensory traps. TAKEAWAYS Neurodivergent individuals experience higher rates of sleep disorders due to shared genetic roots, co-occurring medical conditions, and baseline variations in biological clocks. ADHDers often experience a natural circadian rhythm delay of up to two hours, while autistic people often possess highly inconsistent circadian patterns from night to night. Daytime sleepiness in younger children rarely presents as lethargy and instead as hyperactivity, increased irritability, dysregulation, and an increased use of negative emotion words. Shifting the bedtime linguistic framework from "trying to sleep" to "waiting for sleep to arrive" reduces cognitive pressure and lowers physiological alertness. Underlying physiological issues like obstructive sleep apnea or periodic limb movement disorder directly mimic or exacerbate the core diagnostic criteria of ADHD, including severe inattention and social friction. Perfectionism can be difficult to identify in therapy, and once identified, still very difficult to overcome. If you're a mental health professional, join us for Overcoming Perfectionism in Therapy: Supporting Neurodivergent Clients Who Keep Moving the Finish Line. Matt Zakreski will present this 1.5 hour continuing education course on June 5th at 1:00 pm Central, and if you can't join us live, that's okay. The video will be available afterward for anyone who registers, and either version is APA and NBCC approved for 1.5 hours of continuing education credit. Register now or learn more at this link, or just go to neurodiversity.university. Dr. Melisa Moore, PhD is a clinical psychologist and board-certified behavioral sleep medicine specialist who focuses on sleep and mood challenges in children, teens, and young adults. She works at the sleep center at Rady Children's Health San Diego and also provides care through her private practice, supporting clients across the country with a specialization in neurodiversity. Dr. Moore is the author of The Good Sleep Guide for Neurodivergent Kids, offering practical, research-informed strategies to help families improve sleep in ways that are both effective and affirming. BACKGROUND READING Melisa's website, Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn The Neurodiversity Podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, BlueSky, and you're invited to join our Facebook Group. For more information go to www.NeurodiversityPodcast.com If you'd like members of your organization, school district, or company to know more about the subjects discussed on our podcast, Emily Kircher-Morris provides keynote addresses, workshops, and training sessions worldwide, in-person or virtually. You can choose from a list of established presentations, or work with Emily to develop a custom talk to fit your unique situation. To learn more, visit our website.
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    36 mins
  • Understanding ADHD Children

    Understanding ADHD Children
    May 14 2026

    Parents often believe they know their children, when in reality they haven't made the effort to really understand them. That understanding can be even harder when adding ADHD into the mix. Dr. Sharon Saline is a clinical psychologist and author of the book, What Your ADHD Child Wishes You Knew. She talks with Emily Kircher-Morris about how to go about understanding your child better, and how ADHD can complicate the relationship. This conversation was previously released.

    Perfectionism can be difficult to identify in therapy, and once identified, still very difficult to overcome. If you're a mental health professional, join us for Overcoming Perfectionism in Therapy: Supporting Neurodivergent Clients Who Keep Moving the Finish Line. Dr. Matt Zakreski will present this 1.5 hour continuing education course on June 5th at 1:00 pm Central, and if you can't join us live, that's okay. The video will be available afterward for anyone who registers, and either version is APA and NBCC approved for 1.5 hours of continuing education credit. Register now or learn more at this link, or just go to neurodiversity.university.

    Sharon Saline, Psy.D., is a clinical psychologist and the author of the award-winning book, What Your ADHD Child Wishes You Knew: Working Together to Empower Kids for Success in School and Life, and creator of The ADHD Solution card deck, which specializes in working with neurodiverse children, teens, adults and families living with ADHD, learning disabilities, high-functioning autism, twice exceptionality and mental health issues. Working for years as a clinician, educator, coach and consultant, she translates complex information into accessible language and concepts that everybody can understand and apply in their lives.

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    The Neurodiversity Podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, BlueSky, and you're invited to join our Facebook Group. For more information go to www.NeurodiversityPodcast.com

    If you'd like members of your organization, school district, or company to know more about the subjects discussed on our podcast, Emily Kircher-Morris provides keynote addresses, workshops, and training sessions worldwide, in-person or virtually. You can choose from a list of established presentations, or work with Emily to develop a custom talk to fit your unique situation. To learn more, visit our website.
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    34 mins
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Wow! I’m so grateful for these riveting podcasts with people who are specialised in this subject. I’m at the beginning of understanding this topic, desperately wanting to understand more because I have family members who are neurodiverse, and I’m neurotypical.

Absolutely riveting!

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