Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast cover art

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

By: Persephonica and Global Optimism
Listen for free

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast is for anyone who is not ready to give up on making the world a better place. For unrivalled conversations with decision makers, visionary thinkers and a community of like-minded climate optimists, join former UN climate chief Christiana Figueres, political strategist Tom Rivett-Carnac and sustainable business consultant Paul Dickinson. Each week they make sense of all the top climate news stories, go behind the scenes at crucial talks and ensure you stay informed and inspired ahead of what is set to be the consequential year for climate action.



As we approach the middle of the decisive decade for world emissions, and the 10 year anniversary of the Paris climate agreement, subscribe to Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast


And join us for our special Inside COP series with co-host Fiona McRaith where we bring you behind the scenes of COP30 in Belém!


And to see video content from the show, follow us on LinkedIn, and Instagram.



Got a question? Send us a voice message.



This is a Persephonica production for Global Optimism and is part of the Acast Creator Network.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Persephonica
Politics & Government Science Social Sciences
Episodes
  • Is It Over? A Direct Answer to Climate Despair
    Jul 2 2026

    Is it already too late? If you follow the climate crisis closely, despair is a reasonable and rational response to what you're looking at.


    This week, we’re being led by you. We gathered the messages you've been sending and let them set the agenda. They're heavy ones, and we wanted to stay with them rather than rush past. Is there still hope, or is it over? If this civilisation ends, won't nature simply restore itself without us? How do you keep going when the grief feels total?


    None of them have easy answers, and we don't pretend otherwise. Along the way, one listener pushes back on the phrase "pre-traumatic stress" and offers a truer one: earth grief, the other side of the coin from love. Another thread reaches for deep time - William MacAskill's claim that we are barely 2% of the way into humanity's story. How does that perspective change what matters now?


    So - what can we actually do? From the language we use, to how we give our time and resources, to the places where each of us touches power. Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac and Paul Dickinson challenge each other and us to find actions that make our shared climate grief easier to carry.


    LEARN MORE


    👀 Still looking for new terminology? Producer Ben suggests 'climate disruption', which captures the shift from the stable Holocene to a more uncertain world. 'Climate sabotage' can also be useful, if we want to shift focus to the perpetrators.


    📘 Read What We Owe the Future by William MacAskill - the case for deep time and long-term thinking Tom draws on


    📗 Revisit The Future We Choose by Christiana Figueres and Tom Rivett-Carnac - including the idea of the places where you "touch power"


    🔗 Follow Stephanie Klotz on LinkedIn, whose letter reframed "pre-traumatic stress" as earth grief


    🌊 Listen back to our AMOC episode


    💷 Listen back to our philanthropy episode, the starting point for the question on giving small amounts


    🎤 Leave us your voice notes and questions for upcoming episodes on SpeakPipe (https://www.speakpipe.com/OutrageandOptimism)




    Join the conversation:


    Instagram @outrageoptimism LinkedIn @outrageoptimism


    Or get in touch with us via this form.

    (Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/outrageoptimism/ | LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/company/outrageoptimism | Contact form: https://www.globaloptimism.com/contact?hsLang=en)



    Producer: Ben Weaver-Hincks

    Edited by: Miles Martignoni

    Planning: Caitlin Hanrahan

    Exec Producer: Ellie Clifford


    This is a Persephonica production for Global Optimism and is part of the Acast Creator Network.



    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Show More Show Less
    38 mins
  • London Cooking: A Climate Action Week, a Resigning PM, and the Future of Climate Diplomacy
    Jun 25 2026

    London Climate Action Week doesn't usually have to compete with extreme weather. But this year, the case for climate action was abundantly clear: a red heat warning, schools shut, trains cancelled, and temperatures breaking the UK's all-time June record. A prime minister's resignation on the opening day only added to the sense that events we’d once considered rare now seem to be happening all the time.


    This week, Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac and Paul Dickinson report from LCAW 2026, where 75,000 people gathered to work on exactly the crisis unfolding outside. They dig into the politics swirling around the event and the UN Secretary-General's speech that opened it. And with the future uncertain at the UN as well as in Downing Street, Christiana walks through all six candidates to succeed António Guterres, and what each of them actually believes about climate.


    They also speak with Kate Gallego, Mayor of Phoenix, who alongside last week's guest Nick Reece of Melbourne launched the C40 Global Urban Data Centre Pact at LCAW: a commitment signed by 41 cities to push back on unchecked AI infrastructure expansion in communities that haven't always had a say.


    And Tom sits down one-on-one with Rachel Kyte, the UK's Special Representative for Climate. She argues that we forgot ‘the second half of Paris’, explains how climate diplomacy is shifting gears, and tells us why, against the odds, she still finds reasons for optimism.


    Learn More:

    📢 Read the UN Secretary-General's full LCAW address.


    🌐 Browse the UN's official Secretary-General candidate page, with vision statements and CVs for all six current candidates.


    🏙️ Explore the C40 Global Urban Data Centres Pact, signed by 41 cities across six continents at London Climate Action Week.


    🤖 Read the UK government announcement of the new FCDO/Met Office AI weather forecasting partnership, designed to bring 10-day early warning capability to the countries most exposed to the climate crisis



    🎤 Leave us your voice notes and questions for upcoming episodes on SpeakPipe


    Join the conversation:

    Instagram @outrageoptimism LinkedIn @outrageoptimism

    Or get in touch with us via this form.


    Producer: Ben Weaver-Hincks

    Editing by: Miles Martignoni

    Planning: Caitlin Hanrahan

    Exec Producer: Ellie Clifford


    This is a Persephonica production for Global Optimism and is part of the Acast Creator Network.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Show More Show Less
    58 mins
  • From SpaceX to City Streets: Who Pays for the AI Data Centre Boom?
    Jun 18 2026
    SpaceX's $1.75 trillion IPO has just created the world's first trillionaire. But for families in Morgan County, Georgia and Boxtown in South Memphis, the AI investment rush seems to look rather different: brown water, diesel fumes, and higher bills.This week, Tom Rivett-Carnac and Paul Dickinson take on the data centre boom - now one of the fastest-moving forces in the global energy system. Why exactly do so many of these buildings need to be situated so close to population centres? And why do the communities that end up hosting them so rarely get a meaningful say?We hear from Nick Reece, Lord Mayor of Melbourne, one of the most vocal city leaders addressing the challenge head-on. He explains the costs and the unrealised promises, and shares his vision for what a genuinely good deal between the tech industry and host communities could look like.What would it take for communities to actually share in the benefits of the AI boom? How do cities avoid a race to the bottom while national governments court the biggest investors? And is the world heading for the same story it has seen before: transformative technology reshaping society, with the legislation catching up 20 years too late?Learn More:🎥 Watch Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez present contaminated drinking water from Morgan County, Georgia at a House Energy and Commerce Committee hearing📋 Read the Southern Environmental Law Center's reporting on xAI's Colossus and how an illegal gas-fired power plant was built in Boxtown⚡ Explore the IEA's Energy and AI report for the full data on how global electricity demand from data centres is set to double by 2030🏙️ See the City of Melbourne's C40 initiative for responsible data infrastructure, co-led by Lord Mayor Reece alongside mayors from nine other cities worldwide🔌 Understand why NERC issued a rare Level 3 alert on the grid stability risks posed by large computational loads that can drop hundreds of megawatts in milliseconds🎙️ Listen to the Volts podcast episode "Why is NERC so worried about data centers?" for a deep dive into the grid engineering challenges Paul raised in this episode🌍 After recording, we remembered there IS a precedent for legislation moving fast enough. Read about the Montreal Protocol🎤 Leave us your voice notes and questions for upcoming episodes on SpeakPipeJoin the conversation:Instagram @outrageoptimism LinkedIn @outrageoptimismOr get in touch with us via this form.Producer: Ben Weaver-HincksPlanning: Caitlin Hanrahan Exec Producer: Ellie CliffordThis is a Persephonica production for Global Optimism and is part of the Acast Creator Network. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
    Show More Show Less
    49 mins
adbl_web_anon_alc_button_suppression_t1
No reviews yet