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The Numbers Game

The Numbers Game

By: Nick Reilly Jason Robinson
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The Numbers Game — It’s finance, investment and business but not as you know it. Each week Jason Robinson (CPA Accountant), Nick Reilly (Planner) come together to bring you strategy and advice around the importance of knowing your numbers in life and business. Numbers really do tell a story so let us help you make it a good one.2021 THE NUMBERS GAME PODCAST PTY LTD Economics Leadership Management & Leadership Personal Development Personal Finance Personal Success
Episodes
  • Leaving Australia for Tax Purposes? The ATO Already Knows Your Plan
    Apr 12 2026

    Moving to Dubai to pay less tax is all over social media, but leaving the Australian tax system is a lot harder than packing your bags. If you've ever looked at your tax bill and thought about leaving, the ATO is already tracking more than you think: your travel, your bank accounts, even your family ties. Jase is working with a client who's actually making the move, and walks through what it takes to genuinely separate from the Australian tax system, and the two things that follow you no matter where you go.

    On this episode, we discuss:

    (00:00) Intro
    (00:34) The Trend of Moving Overseas to Pay Less Tax
    (02:29) A Real Client Moving to Dubai, $100 Pizza and $50 Coffees
    (04:43) What the ATO Actually Tracks When You Leave Australia
    (06:14) The Resides Test, Domicile Test, and 183 Day Rule
    (07:54) Why Intent Matters More Than Anything to the ATO
    (09:56) Your HECS Debt Follows You Overseas
    (11:43) Why You Can't Access Your Super When You Leave
    (13:32) How the ATO Tracks You With Open Data and AI
    (15:27) What Happens If You Keep Your Australian Property
    (17:38) Foreign Resident Tax Rates Start at 32.5%
    (19:25) The ATO's $50 Billion Tax Debt Book
    (20:27) Departure Prohibition Orders and Enforcement
    (21:43) $30,000 to Set Up a Company in Dubai

    Check out the free resources from Inovayt here.

    Send us an email: hello@thenumbersgamepodcast.com.au

    The Numbers Game is brought to you by Future Advisory & Inovayt.

    Hosts:
    Nick Reilly
    Jason Robinson

    This podcast is produced by VIDPOD.


    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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    23 mins
  • He Did Everything Right and Still Lost $70K | The First Home Buyer Trap
    Apr 5 2026

    A first-home buyer did everything by the book and still lost $70,000 in three and a half years. Nick walks through the real numbers on a $495,000 boutique apartment in Carnegie, from strata fees that more than doubled to the government grants you can only use once, and what it actually cost when it came time to sell.

    On this episode, we discuss:

    (00:00) Intro
    (00:23) Does Property Really Double Every 7 to 10 Years
    (01:25) The $70,000 First Home Buyer Case Study
    (02:48) Purchase Price $495,000 and the True Cost of Entry
    (03:49) Rent Vesting in South Yarra vs Buying
    (04:48) Why a Boutique Apartment in Carnegie Made Sense
    (06:04) The Numbers Behind the $70,000 Loss
    (07:30) Strata Fees from $1,500 to $4,000 Per Year
    (08:35) Mortgage Repayments vs Rent, $700 vs $500 Per Week
    (10:02) Sold for $480,000 and the Costs That Stacked Up
    (11:11) Losing Access to the First Home Guarantee and Stamp Duty Savings
    (13:17) How to Choose a Buyers Agent for Investment Property
    (16:45) Why Rising Strata Costs Force Apartment Owners to Sell
    (20:48) Land vs Apartments and Why Land Gives You Options

    Check out the free resources from Inovayt here.

    Send us an email: hello@thenumbersgamepodcast.com.au

    The Numbers Game is brought to you by Future Advisory & Inovayt.

    Hosts:
    Nick Reilly
    Jason Robinson

    This podcast is produced by VIDPOD.


    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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    24 mins
  • AI Agents Are Here and Your Business Needs a Plan
    Mar 29 2026

    AI agents are no longer just a buzzword. They're already automating real tasks in businesses and the speed of change is only accelerating. We share firsthand examples of how AI is boosting productivity, replacing manual processes, and why having a deliberate AI strategy is no longer optional for business owners.

    On this episode, we discuss:

    (00:00) Intro
    (00:24) The Automation Course That Was Obsolete in Five Months
    (02:21) What Is an AI Agent and Why Does It Matter
    (03:03) Why AI Agents Are the Next Wave After Outsourcing
    (05:17) Building a Deliberate AI Strategy With a Set Budget
    (07:37) Why Most Business Owners Still Haven't Started With AI
    (09:19) How AI Replaced Two Offshore Roles Processing 1,000 Emails a Day
    (10:00) The Tool That Saves Brokers Three Hours Per Loan
    (12:15) Automating Financial Statements for 500 Business Clients
    (14:40) Why Teams Are Switching From ChatGPT to Claude
    (15:23) The Security Risks of Running AI Agents on Your Devices
    (17:45) When AI Deleted Half a Meta Executive's Inbox
    (20:19) Controlling the Controllables in an AI-Driven World
    (22:52) Why AI Is the Biggest Shift Since Social Media

    Check out the free resources from Inovayt here.

    Send us an email: hello@thenumbersgamepodcast.com.au

    The Numbers Game is brought to you by Future Advisory & Inovayt.

    Hosts:
    Nick Reilly
    Jason Robinson

    This podcast is produced by VIDPOD.


    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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    26 mins
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